'It creates conflicts': Why Wedlake Bell is cautious on external capital, and all-in on culture
Senior partner Camilla Wallace on the 245-year-old City firm's approach to culture, growth and wellbeing.
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Wedlake Bell turned 245 this year, but Camilla Wallace wants you to know it doesn’t behave like it. "We always say 1780 but contemporary," she tells us in a conversation for The Non-Billable Podcast. "We were one of the first firms to go almost paper free. We were one of the first to go almost completely open plan - partners don't even have their own offices."
A private client specialist who qualified at Dechert and later worked at Macfarlanes, Wallace has spent 18 years at Wedlake Bell and nearly two as senior partner. In that time, the firm has grown from a partnership of less than 20 to an overall headcount of more than 350. It sits, proudly, in the City’s mid-market with four full-service pillars: real estate, business, private client and disputes.
Growth, she argues, has come from a mix of client demand and targeted moves. "We’ve been quite strategic in terms of bolting on bits of business that we felt that we were lightweight in," she says, pointing to the 2021 merger with Moon Beever, which delivered "a really robust tier one restructuring proposition," and to the firm’s "tier one arts and luxury assets team" that is "the leader in the country."
Listen to the full-length interview on the podcast. Episode page with links here.
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Strategy without external capital
You won’t find Wedlake Bell racing to open a dozen offices in Europe. The firm has "clients from all over the world," Wallace says, but still operates from a single office off Cannon Street, and nowhere overseas.
She is candid that scale-for-scale’s-sake holds little appeal: "We get a lot of our work because of our positioning, being that mid-tier firm. I think we would have an identity crisis if we suddenly merged with an American firm or became the London office of a European franchise."
That caution extends to external investment. "We won’t be doing that and we won’t be listing either," she says. The reason isn't ideological. "The moment you have outside capital and you have that pseudo shareholder relationship, you’ve got a conflict with your duties and your obligations. Are you trying to generate profit to return it to your investor? Are you trying to service your client?"
For a client service business, she argues, "that type of change in business strategy doesn’t serve your client very well."
The moment you have outside capital and you have that pseudo shareholder relationship, you’ve got a conflict with your duties and your obligations.
The modern senior partner: chair, diplomat, counsellor
Wallace sees the senior partner-managing partner relationship as the classic chair-CEO split. "The managing partner has no clients and does the operational nuts and the bolts, making sure everything is stacking up." Her role is different: "I still have my clients which is fantastic," and the senior partner remit breaks into three parts.
First, "the functional role": "I chair partners meetings, I chair equity meetings, I chair board meetings to make sure that the partners have a voice." Second, "an ambassadorial role," outward-facing through media, meetings and "lobbying." And third, "internal and pastoral," where she has "taken on 80 partners or so as my new clients" to ensure "they are happy and healthy and they have the resources they need."
The model works, she says, in part because of complementary backgrounds at the top. "We’ve got a CEO in Martin [Arnold] who is a litigator - really commercial - and then we’ve got this chair in me that is highly empathetic, a private client lawyer, and a diplomat," she says.
Law Firm | Trainee First Year | Trainee Second Year | Newly Qualified (NQ) |
|---|---|---|---|
| Addleshaw Goddard | £52,000 | £56,000 | £100,000 |
| Akin | £60,000 | £65,000 | £174,418 |
| A&O Shearman | £56,000 | £61,000 | £150,000 |
| Ashurst | £57,000 | £62,000 | £140,000 |
| Baker McKenzie | £56,000 | £61,000 | £145,000 |
| Bird & Bird | £47,000 | £52,000 | £102,000 |
| Bristows | £46,000 | £50,000 | £88,000 |
| Bryan Cave Leighton Paisner | £50,000 | £55,000 | £115,000 |
| Burges Salmon | £47,000 | £49,000 | £72,000 |
| Charles Russell Speechlys | £50,000 | £53,000 | £88,000 |
| Cleary Gottlieb | £62,500 | £67,500 | £164,500 |
| Clifford Chance | £56,000 | £61,000 | £150,000 |
| Clyde & Co | £47,000 | £49,500 | £85,000 |
| CMS | £50,000 | £55,000 | £120,000 |
| Cooley | £55,000 | £60,000 | £157,000 |
| Davis Polk | £65,000 | £70,000 | £170,000 |
| Debevoise | £55,000 | £60,000 | £173,000 |
| Dechert | £55,000 | £61,000 | £165,000 |
| Dentons | £50,000 | £54,000 | £100,000 |
| DLA Piper | £52,000 | £57,000 | £130,000 |
| Eversheds Sutherland | £46,000 | £50,000 | £110,000 |
| Farrer & Co | £47,000 | £49,000 | £88,000 |
| Fieldfisher | £48,500 | £52,000 | £95,000 |
| Freshfields | £56,000 | £61,000 | £150,000 |
| Fried Frank | £55,000 | £60,000 | £175,000 |
| Gibson Dunn | £60,000 | £65,000 | £180,000 |
| Goodwin Procter | £55,000 | £60,000 | £175,000 |
| Gowling WLG | £48,500 | £53,500 | £105,000 |
| Herbert Smith Freehills Kramer | £56,000 | £61,000 | £145,000 |
| HFW | £50,000 | £54,000 | £103,500 |
| Hill Dickinson | £43,000 | £45,000 | £80,000 |
| Hogan Lovells | £56,000 | £61,000 | £140,000 |
| Irwin Mitchell | £43,000 | £45,000 | £76,000 |
| Jones Day | £56,000 | £65,000 | £160,000 |
| K&L Gates | £50,000 | £55,000 | £115,000 |
| Kennedys | £43,000 | £46,000 | £85,000 |
| King & Spalding | £55,000 | £60,000 | £165,000 |
| Kirkland & Ellis | £60,000 | £65,000 | £174,418 |
| Latham & Watkins | £60,000 | £65,000 | £174,418 |
| Linklaters | £56,000 | £61,000 | £150,000 |
| Macfarlanes | £56,000 | £61,000 | £140,000 |
| Mayer Brown | £55,000 | £60,000 | £150,000 |
| McDermott Will & Schulte | £65,000 | £70,000 | £174,418 |
| Milbank | £65,000 | £70,000 | £174,418 |
| Mills & Reeve | £45,000 | £47,000 | £82,000 |
| Mischon de Reya | £47,500 | £52,500 | £95,000 |
| Norton Rose Fulbright | £50,000 | £55,000 | £135,000 |
| Orrick | £55,000 | £60,000 | £160,000 |
| Osborne Clarke | £54,500 | £56,000 | £94,000 |
| Paul Hastings | £60,000 | £68,000 | £173,000 |
| Paul Weiss | £55,000 | £60,000 | £180,000 |
| Penningtons Manches Cooper | £48,000 | £50,000 | £83,000 |
| Pinsent Masons | £49,500 | £54,000 | £105,000 |
| Quinn Emanuel | n/a | n/a | £180,000 |
| Reed Smith | £50,000 | £55,000 | £125,000 |
| Ropes & Gray | £60,000 | £65,000 | £165,000 |
| RPC | £46,000 | £50,000 | £90,000 |
| Shoosmiths | £43,000 | £45,000 | £105,000 |
| Sidley Austin | £60,000 | £65,000 | £175,000 |
| Simmons & Simmons | £52,000 | £57,000 | £120,000 |
| Skadden | £58,000 | £63,000 | £173,000 |
| Slaughter and May | £56,000 | £61,000 | £150,000 |
| Squire Patton Boggs | £47,000 | £50,000 | £110,000 |
| Stephenson Harwood | £50,000 | £55,000 | £100,000 |
| Sullivan & Cromwell | £65,000 | £70,000 | £174,418 |
| Taylor Wessing | £50,000 | £55,000 | £115,000 |
| TLT | £44,000 | £47,500 | £85,000 |
| Travers Smith | £55,000 | £60,000 | £130,000 |
| Trowers & Hamlins | £45,000 | £49,000 | £80,000 |
| Vinson & Elkins | £60,000 | £65,000 | £173,077 |
| Watson Farley & Williams | £50,000 | £55,000 | £102,000 |
| Weightmans | £34,000 | £36,000 | £70,000 |
| Weil Gotshal & Manges | £60,000 | £65,000 | £170,000 |
| White & Case | £62,000 | £67,000 | £175,000 |
| Willkie Farr & Gallagher | £60,000 | £65,000 | £170,000 |
| Withers | £47,000 | £52,000 | £95,000 |
| Womble Bond Dickinson | £43,000 | £45,000 | £80,000 |
Rank | Law Firm | Revenue | Profit per Equity Partner (PEP) |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | DLA Piper* | £3,010,000,000 | £2,400,000 |
| 2 | Clifford Chance | £2,300,000,000 | £2,040,000 |
| 3 | A&O Shearman | £2,200,000,000 | £2,200,000 |
| 4 | Hogan Lovells | £2,150,000,000 | £2,200,000 |
| 5 | Freshfields | £2,120,000,000 | Not disclosed |
| 6 | Linklaters | £2,100,000,000 | £1,900,000 |
| 7 | Norton Rose Fulbright* | £1,800,000,000 | £1,100,000 |
| 8 | CMS** | £1,620,000,000 | Not disclosed |
| 9 | Herbert Smith Freehills | £1,300,000,000 | £1,300,000 |
| 10 | Ashurst | £961,000,000 | £1,300,000 |
| 11 | Clyde & Co | £844,000,000 | £739,000 |
| 12 | Eversheds Sutherland | £749,000,000 | £1,300,000 |
| 13 | BCLP* | £661,000,000 | £748,000 |
| 14 | Pinsent Masons | £649,000,000 | £793,000 |
| 15 | Slaughter and May*** | £625,000,000 | Not disclosed |
| 16 | Simmons & Simmons | £574,000,000 | £1,076,000 |
| 17 | Bird & Bird** | £545,000,000 | £696,000 |
| 18 | Addleshaw Goddard | £495,000,000 | Not disclosed |
| 19 | Taylor Wessing | £480,000,000 | £915,000*** |
| 20 | Osborne Clarke** | £456,000,000 | £771,000 |
| 21 | Womble Bond Dickinson | £448,000,000 | £556,000 |
| 22 | DWF | £435,000,000 | Not disclosed |
| 23 | Fieldfisher | £407,000,000 | £966,000 |
| 24 | Kennedys | £384,000,000 | Not disclosed |
| 25 | DAC Beachcroft | £325,000,000 | £700,000 |
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Mental health as a business issue
The pastoral remit has pushed mental health up the agenda. "We live in a little bit of a bubble here at Wedlake Bell because we have a fantastic culture," Wallace says, but "when you broaden it out and you look at the legal industry, it’s not that great at all."
As a champion for industry mental health charity LawCare, she cites its latest survey: "Nearly 60% of people working in the legal industry reported poor mental well-being. 32% said that they would leave the sector entirely, 79% saying that they work beyond their contracted hours and 56% said they would leave within five years." Her conclusion: "We definitely need to take some action on all of this."
Some of that action starts at home. She has convened a best-practice group she calls LawWell and rolled out "anonymous learning reviews" inside teams to build "psychological safety." The aim is cultural: "All of us make mistakes, it’s really how you respond that counts."
Yet lawyers "suffering from mental health issues make more mistakes and then they don’t speak about it, they don’t speak up and they cover it up and the mistake gets bigger." Anonymous reporting lets teams explain, "this mistake was made, it was identified and this is what we did," which "creates more transparency and mitigates mistakes going forward."
What juniors want and why it matters
Younger lawyers, she says, want something different than the hours-at-all-costs culture of old.
"I grew up in the era where you just literally said, what do you want? 24 hours of my day, you’ve got it," Wallace admits. "We have to recognise that that’s not healthy."
Today’s juniors "are driven by purpose and autonomy," which "feeds into flexible working, having some time at home, being trusted, and just getting the job done without too much micromanagement." At Wedlake Bell, "they only need to be in three days a week," and the firm invests heavily in extracurriculars so cross-practice teams already "know each other."
I grew up in the era where you just literally said, what do you want? 24 hours of my day, you’ve got it.
‘The millionaire exodus’ - and why it’s not just non-doms
As a tax and estates partner to high- and ultra-high-net-worth clients, Wallace sees the UK's wealth migration debate up close, and actually thinks the headlines underplay the problem. "It’s not just the non-doms that are leaving. British entrepreneurs and talented British financiers or lawyers or accountants or family office personnel [are] relocating so that they don’t have to pay as much tax."
The economic footprint of the wealthy, she says, is broader than their personal tax bill. "What we saw was whole ecosystems that built up around them - all those activities employ people in the UK and generate more tax so it’s incredibly difficult to put a number on it but we have seen parts of London change as everyone has moved to Milan."
Keep it simple
Asked how she would approach keeping the UK’s wealthiest and most productive people, Wallace's long-term preference is far simpler than most policymakers make it: "I would have a flat rate of 20% tax across the board - VAT at 20%, corporation tax at 20%, inheritance tax at 20%, capital gains tax at 20%, and income tax at 20%," she says. "Imagine if you had the flat 20% regime. How many people would come here and spend money here and invest here."
That captures the balance she thinks the country - and firms like hers - should strike: stay competitive while holding on to what already works. "We are custodians of this very old business," she says of Wedlake Bell’s partners. The job is to look after it - and its clients - while looking forward. Or, as she puts it, "1780 but contemporary."
We are custodians of this very old business - we want to look after it.
| Firm | London office since | Known for in London |
|---|---|---|
| Akin | 1997 | Restructuring, funds |
| Baker McKenzie | 1961 | Finance, capital markets, TMT |
| Davis Polk | 1972 | Leveraged finance, corporate/M&A |
| Gibson Dunn | 1979 | Private equity, arbitration, energy, resources and infrastructure |
| Goodwin | 2008 | Private equity, funds, life sciences |
| Kirkland & Ellis | 1994 | Private equity, funds, restructuring |
| Latham & Watkins | 1990 | Finance, private equity, capital markets |
| McDermott Will & Schulte | 1998 | Finance, funds, healthcare |
| Milbank | 1979 | Finance, capital markets, energy, resources and infrastructure |
| Paul Hastings | 1997 | Leveraged finance, structured finance, infrastructure |
| Paul Weiss | 2001 | Private equity, leveraged finance |
| Quinn Emanuel | 2008 | Litigation |
| Sidley Austin | 1974 | Leveraged finance, capital markets, corporate/M&A |
| Simpson Thacher | 1978 | Leveraged finance, private equity, funds |
| Skadden | 1988 | Finance, corporate/M&A, arbitration |
| Sullivan & Cromwell | 1972 | Corporate/M&A, restructuring, capital markets |
| Weil | 1996 | Restructuring, private equity, leverage finance |
| White & Case | 1971 | Capital markets, arbitration, energy, resources and infrastructure |
| Law firm | Type | First-year salary |
|---|---|---|
| White & Case | US firm | £32,000 |
| Stephenson Harwood | International | £30,000 |
| A&O Shearman | Magic Circle | £28,000 |
| Charles Russell Speechlys | International | £28,000 |
| Freshfields | Magic Circle | £28,000 |
| Herbert Smith Freehills | Silver Circle | £28,000 |
| Hogan Lovells | International | £28,000 |
| Linklaters | Magic Circle | £28,000 |
| Mishcon de Reya | International | £28,000 |
| Norton Rose Fulbright | International | £28,000 |
This is a condensed version of our full length interview with Camilla Wallace on The Non-Billable Podcast. View the episode page here.
Law Firm | Trainee First Year | Trainee Second Year | Newly Qualified (NQ) |
|---|---|---|---|
| A&O Shearman | £56,000 | £61,000 | £150,000 |
| Clifford Chance | £56,000 | £61,000 | £150,000 |
| Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer | £56,000 | £61,000 | £150,000 |
| Linklaters | £56,000 | £61,000 | £150,000 |
| Slaughter and May | £56,000 | £61,000 | £150,000 |
Law Firm | Trainee First Year | Trainee Second Year | Newly Qualified (NQ) |
|---|---|---|---|
| A&O Shearman | £56,000 | £61,000 | £150,000 |
| Clifford Chance | £56,000 | £61,000 | £150,000 |
| Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer | £56,000 | £61,000 | £150,000 |
| Linklaters | £56,000 | £61,000 | £150,000 |
| Slaughter and May | £56,000 | £61,000 | £150,000 |
Law Firm | Trainee First Year | Trainee Second Year | Newly Qualified (NQ) |
|---|---|---|---|
| Ashurst | £57,000 | £62,000 | £140,000 |
| Bryan Cave Leighton Paisner | £50,000 | £55,000 | £115,000 |
| Herbert Smith Freehills | £56,000 | £61,000 | £145,000 |
| Macfarlanes | £56,000 | £61,000 | £140,000 |
| Travers Smith | £55,000 | £60,000 | £130,000 |
| Firm | Merger year | Known for in London |
|---|---|---|
| BCLP | 2018 | Real estate, corporate/M&A, litigation |
| DLA Piper | 2005 | Corporate/M&A, real estate, energy, resources and infrastructure |
| Eversheds Sutherland | 2017 | Corporate/M&A, finance |
| Hogan Lovells | 2011 | Litigation, regulation, finance |
| Mayer Brown | 2002 | Finance, capital markets, real estate |
| Norton Rose Fulbright | 2013 | Energy, resources and infrastructure, insurance, finance |
| Reed Smith | 2007 | Shipping, finance, TMT |
| Squire Patton Boggs | 2011 | Corporate/M&A, pensions, TMT |
Law Firm | Trainee First Year | Trainee Second Year | Newly Qualified (NQ) |
|---|---|---|---|
| Ashurst | £57,000 | £62,000 | £140,000 |
| Bryan Cave Leighton Paisner | £50,000 | £55,000 | £115,000 |
| Herbert Smith Freehills Kramer | £56,000 | £61,000 | £145,000 |
| Macfarlanes | £56,000 | £61,000 | £140,000 |
| Travers Smith | £55,000 | £60,000 | £130,000 |
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