'The industry needs a reset': Why City law veteran Lesley Wan is taking on legal recruitment

Lesley Wan and Charles Waples have launched Wan & Waples, an in-house specialist recruitment firm.

'The industry needs a reset': Why City law veteran Lesley Wan is taking on legal recruitment
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For many senior lawyers, the hiring process has become a source of frustration. Candidates describe being ghosted after interviews, rejected with vague feedback or told that top roles go to those who build relationships on golf courses or at football matches.

For GC veteran Lesley Wan, those experiences formed a pattern. She worked as a lawyer at Allen & Overy and Norton Rose Fulbright before moving in-house to Lloyds Bank, later founding The Eagle Club, a global women’s GC community. Drawing on feedback from that network, she said the same frustrations surfaced repeatedly.

One senior lawyer, she said, was told she lacked “drive”. Another was told by a legal recruiter that “the people who get the top jobs are the ones taking the headhunters to watch Arsenal on a Saturday and playing golf with them”, neither option being “authentically open” to her.

Another lawyer took a proactive approach, arranging meetings with a number of recruiters, only for some not to show up.

“It’s so frustrating,” Wan said. “It’s bad behaviour, disregard and disrespect.”
 Ghosting, she added, has become a familiar part of the process, even at the most senior level.

“They’ve prepared, dressed for the occasion, travelled and turned up on time, and then you ghost them,” she said.

“Is it just not simpler to be honest and say, ‘look, I’m really sorry, we’re not moving forward with you?'”

A breaking point

Wan said hearing of these repeated experiences ultimately prompted her to act.

In March, she launched Wan & Waples, a specialist legal search firm, alongside former Odgers recruiter Charles Waples. The firm focuses exclusively on in-house legal roles, from general counsel appointments to wider team hires.

“There’s a real gap in the market for a specialist in-house recruiter,” Waples said.

A reset

Wan said the issue goes beyond individual experiences and is often systemic.

“Too often, senior lawyers feel processes lack transparency, meaningful feedback or genuine understanding of who they are beyond a CV,” she said. “The way they are appointed matters.”

“We think the industry needs a reset,” she added. “There needs to be some disruption in the market.”

There needs to be some disruption in the market.

Waples said the recruiting process is often flawed.

“I’m not saying the entire industry is broken,” he said. “But there’s a lack of consistency and clarity in how processes are run.”

“It’s about doing the basics right. If somebody goes forward for a role and doesn’t secure an interview, we pick up the phone and let them know,” he said.

Beyond CVs

Waples said one of the biggest gaps in the market is the difference between a strong CV and real performance on the job.

“Any recruiter can go out and map people who look excellent on paper and have a really good CV,” he said. “But when push comes to shove, who can really stand up to the pressure and really deliver?”

“Clients are coming to us to find the best general counsel or senior counsel for the role,” he said. “The reason I decided to start this firm with Lesley is because she’s been in the GC seat herself and can evaluate candidates beyond who looks good on paper.”

Law Firm
Trainee First Year
Trainee Second Year
Newly Qualified (NQ)
Addleshaw Goddard£52,000£56,000£100,000
Akin£60,000£65,000£174,418
A&O Shearman£56,000£61,000£150,000
Ashurst£57,000£62,000£140,000
Baker McKenzie£56,000£61,000£145,000
Bird & Bird£48,500£53,500£102,000
Bristows£48,000£52,000£95,000
Bryan Cave Leighton Paisner£55,000£58,000£125,000
Burges Salmon£49,500£51,500£76,000
Charles Russell Speechlys£52,000£55,000£93,000
Cleary Gottlieb£62,500£67,500£164,500
Clifford Chance£56,000£61,000£150,000
Clyde & Co£48,500£51,000£85,000
CMS£50,000£55,000£120,000
Cooley£55,000£60,000£157,000
Davis Polk £65,000£70,000£180,000
Debevoise £55,000£60,000£173,000
Dechert£55,000£61,000£165,000
Dentons£52,000£56,000£104,000
DLA Piper£52,000£57,000£130,000
Eversheds Sutherland£50,000£55,000£110,000
Farrer & Co£48,500£51,000£89,000
Fieldfisher£48,500£52,000£100,000
Freshfields£56,000£61,000£150,000
Fried Frank£55,000£60,000£175,000
Gibson Dunn£60,000£65,000£180,000
Goodwin Procter£55,000£60,000£175,000
Gowling WLG£48,500£53,500£105,000
Herbert Smith Freehills Kramer£56,000£61,000£145,000
HFW£52,000£56,000£103,500
Hill Dickinson£44,000£45,000£80,000
Hogan Lovells£56,000£61,000£140,000
Irwin Mitchell£43,500£45,500£78,000
Jones Day£60,000£68,000£165,000
K&L Gates£50,000£55,000£115,000
Kennedys£43,000£46,000£85,000
King & Spalding£62,000£67,000£175,000
Kirkland & Ellis£60,000£65,000£174,418
Latham & Watkins£60,000£65,000£174,418
Linklaters£56,000£61,000£150,000
Macfarlanes£56,000£61,000£140,000
Mayer Brown£55,000£60,000£150,000
McDermott Will & Schulte£65,000£70,000£174,418
Milbank£65,000£70,000£174,418
Mills & Reeve£46,800£47,000£84,000
Mishcon de Reya£50,000£55,000£100,000
Norton Rose Fulbright£56,000£61,000£135,000
Orrick£60,000£65,000£160,000
Osborne Clarke£55,500£57,500£97,000
Paul Hastings£60,000£68,000£173,000
Paul Weiss£60,000£65,000£180,000
Penningtons Manches Cooper£48,000£50,000£83,000
Pinsent Masons£52,000£57,000£105,000
Quinn Emanueln/an/a£180,000
Reed Smith£53,000£58,000£125,000
Ropes & Gray£62,000£67,000£170,000
RPC£48,000£52,000£95,000
Shoosmiths£45,000£47,000£105,000
Sidley Austin£60,000£65,000£175,000
Simmons & Simmons£54,000£59,000£120,000
Simpson Thachern/an/a£178,000
Skadden£58,000£63,000£177,000
Slaughter and May£56,000£61,000£150,000
Squire Patton Boggs£50,000£55,000£110,000
Stephenson Harwood£50,000£55,000£105,000
Sullivan & Cromwell£65,000£70,000£174,418
Taylor Wessing£52,000£57,000£115,000
TLT£44,000£47,500£85,000
Travers Smith£55,000£60,000£130,000
Trowers & Hamlins£47,000£51,000£85,000
Vinson & Elkins£60,000£65,000£173,077
Watson Farley & Williams£51,500£56,000£107,000
Weightmans£36,000£38,000£70,000
Weil £60,000£65,000£170,000
White & Case£62,000£67,000£175,000
Willkie Farr & Gallagher£60,000£65,000£180,000
Withers£47,000£52,000£95,000
Womble Bond Dickinson£43,000£45,000£83,000
Rank
Law Firm
Revenue
Profit per Equity
Partner (PEP)
1DLA Piper*£3,130,000,000£2,500,000
2A&O Shearman£2,900,000,000£2,000,000
3Clifford Chance£2,400,000,000£2,100,000
4Hogan Lovells£2,320,000,000£2,400,000
5Linklaters£2,320,000,000£2,200,000
6Freshfields£2,250,000,000Not disclosed
7CMS**£1,800,000,000Not disclosed
8Norton Rose Fulbright*£1,800,000,000Not disclosed
9HSF Kramer£1,360,000,000£1,400,000
10Ashurst£1,030,000,000£1,390,000
11Clyde & Co£854,000,000Not disclosed
12Eversheds Sutherland£769,000,000£1,400,000
13Pinsent Masons£680,000,000£790,000
14Slaughter and May***£650,000,000Not disclosed
15BCLP*£640,000,000£790,000
16Simmons & Simmons£615,000,000£1,120,000
17Bird & Bird**£580,000,000£720,000
18Addleshaw Goddard£550,000,000£1,000,000
19Taylor Wessing£526,000,000£1,100,000
20Osborne Clarke**£476,000,000£800,000
21DWF£466,000,000Not disclosed
22Womble Bond Dickinson£450,000,000Not disclosed
23Kennedys£428,000,000Not disclosed
24Fieldfisher£385,000,000£1,000,000
25Macfarlanes£371,000,000£3,100,000

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The modern GC

Wan said hiring processes also haven’t kept pace with how the GC role has evolved.

“The market has changed,” she said. “There’s a heavier reliance on general counsel to undertake more pressure and be informed on more areas that they may have been exposed to in the past.”

With the rise of AI, more work is also moving in-house. According to a recent Thomson Reuters report, more than half of GCs expect to bring more legal work in-house over the next five years as corporate legal departments rethink their outsourcing strategies.

The market has changed. There’s a heavier reliance on general counsel to undertake more pressure...

Both founders said the GC role now demands more than technical expertise.

“In the board room when something’s going wrong, they’re turning to that general counsel first,” Waples said.

Wan said the role requires calm judgement. “You can’t be panicked. You have to remain calm and take control.”

‘Humanising’ the process

Waples said the firm’s immediate focus is on landing mandates and building the firm’s track record.

“It’s just the two of us. We’re going to grow organically and make sure we’re delivering really great service,” he said.

Both said the intention is to change how the recruiting process works.

“We’re not just looking to be another recruitment firm,” Waples said.

Wan put it simply: “We want to humanise the process.”

FirmLondon office sinceKnown for in London
Akin 1997Restructuring, funds
Baker McKenzie1961Finance, capital markets, TMT
Davis Polk1972Leveraged finance, corporate/M&A
Gibson Dunn1979Private equity, arbitration, energy, resources and infrastructure
Goodwin2008Private equity, funds, life sciences
Kirkland & Ellis1994Private equity, funds, restructuring
Latham & Watkins1990Finance, private equity, capital markets
McDermott Will & Schulte1998Finance, funds, healthcare
Milbank1979Finance, capital markets, energy, resources and infrastructure
Paul Hastings1997Leveraged finance, structured finance, infrastructure
Paul Weiss2001Private equity, leveraged finance
Quinn Emanuel2008Litigation
Sidley Austin1974Leveraged finance, capital markets, corporate/M&A
Simpson Thacher1978Leveraged finance, private equity, funds
Skadden1988Finance, corporate/M&A, arbitration
Sullivan & Cromwell1972Corporate/M&A, restructuring, capital markets
Weil1996Restructuring, private equity, leverage finance
White & Case1971Capital markets, arbitration, energy, resources and infrastructure
Law firmTypeFirst-year salary
White & CaseUS firm£32,000
Stephenson HarwoodInternational£30,000
A&O ShearmanMagic Circle£28,000
Charles Russell SpeechlysInternational£28,000
FreshfieldsMagic Circle£28,000
Herbert Smith FreehillsSilver Circle£28,000
Hogan LovellsInternational£28,000
LinklatersMagic Circle£28,000
Mishcon de ReyaInternational£28,000
Norton Rose FulbrightInternational£28,000
Law Firm
Trainee First Year
Trainee Second Year
Newly Qualified (NQ)
A&O Shearman£56,000£61,000£150,000
Clifford Chance£56,000£61,000£150,000
Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer£56,000£61,000£150,000
Linklaters£56,000£61,000£150,000
Slaughter and May£56,000£61,000£150,000
Law Firm
Trainee First Year
Trainee Second Year
Newly Qualified (NQ)
A&O Shearman£56,000£61,000£150,000
Clifford Chance£56,000£61,000£150,000
Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer£56,000£61,000£150,000
Linklaters£56,000£61,000£150,000
Slaughter and May£56,000£61,000£150,000
Law Firm
Trainee First Year
Trainee Second Year
Newly Qualified (NQ)
Ashurst£57,000£62,000£140,000
Bryan Cave Leighton Paisner£55,000£58,000£125,000
Herbert Smith Freehills£56,000£61,000£145,000
Macfarlanes£56,000£61,000£140,000
Travers Smith£55,000£60,000£130,000
FirmMerger yearKnown for in London
BCLP2018Real estate, corporate/M&A, litigation
DLA Piper2005Corporate/M&A, real estate, energy, resources and infrastructure
Eversheds Sutherland2017Corporate/M&A, finance
Hogan Lovells2011Litigation, regulation, finance
Mayer Brown2002Finance, capital markets, real estate
Norton Rose Fulbright2013Energy, resources and infrastructure, insurance, finance
Reed Smith2007Shipping, finance, TMT
Squire Patton Boggs2011Corporate/M&A, pensions, TMT
Law Firm
Trainee First Year
Trainee Second Year
Newly Qualified (NQ)
Ashurst£57,000£62,000£140,000
Bryan Cave Leighton Paisner£55,000£58,000£125,000
Herbert Smith Freehills Kramer£56,000£61,000£145,000
Macfarlanes£56,000£61,000£140,000
Travers Smith£55,000£60,000£130,000
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11 Jan 2022
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