'I wish I'd done this 10 years ago': Why Clydes disputes chair Ben Knowles joined Keystone

After nearly 35 years at Clyde & Co, disputes veteran Ben Knowles has joined consultancy-style Keystone Law.

'I wish I'd done this 10 years ago': Why Clydes disputes chair Ben Knowles joined Keystone
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Keystone is one of the few publicly listed UK law firms and operates a consultancy-style model rather than a traditional partnership.

Its 455 lawyers are self-employed and largely work remotely, with the option to work from a hot desk in its central London office or meeting rooms across Bristol, Leeds, Manchester and Newcastle.

The full-service firm operates with a lean central management layer, providing regulatory infrastructure, compliance, billing systems and brand resources, while partners retain control of their own practices. Lawyers at Keystone are free to set their own rates and workloads, and retain up to 75% of what they bill.

Former Clyde & Co disputes chair Ben Knowles has recently joined Keystone after nearly 35 years, along with colleagues Ian Hopkinson and Milena Szuniewicz.

Knowles says increasing conflicts within a large, international platform and a desire to reduce bureaucracy in order to focus on client work were key drivers behind the move.

“I was at Clydes for nearly 35 years,” he says, describing a career that began as a trainee and evolved into senior leadership.

Over that time he sat on the management board for eight years and chaired the disputes practice group. His practice spans international arbitration, upstream oil and gas and extensive Middle East work built over two decades in the region.

“It would be like working for any big company for 35 years,” he says. “There are pros and cons and things change and all the rest of it. And sometimes a change is as good as the rest.”

Some things, however, have not changed - he joined Keystone alongside Hopkinson and Szuniewicz, his colleagues of twenty years.

Conflicts at scale

International arbitration at the senior end tends to be high value and episodic.

“Once you get to a certain point in your career, your work tends to focus on bigger disputes and those don’t come every day of the week,” he says.

In a large global firm, that can mean multiple potential instructions are blocked because conflicts may arise anywhere across the firm’s international client base and office network - ​​for example if the firm advises the opposing company, one of its subsidiaries, or a related entity elsewhere.

“If you get two, three, four, five cases coming along, which you can’t do as a conflict, that’s incredibly frustrating. And at this level, you may not have a steady flow of smaller disputes.”

If you get two, three, four, five cases coming along, which you can’t do as a conflict, that’s incredibly frustrating.

For Knowles, the issue was compounded by the international footprint of a global platform, particularly in jurisdictions with strict conflict regimes.

“Keystone doesn’t have the same international platform, so I’m not facing conflicts, for example, with our Saudi office that I would have faced at Clydes.”

He notes that Saudi conflict rules can resemble US-style regimes, both of which are known for their strict approach to conflicts.

“Keystone doesn't have a US presence or a Saudi presence. So personally, for me, that's great,” he says.

The boutique route

Knowles and his colleagues explored setting up their own firm, an increasingly attractive approach for many Big Law partners, but in his view the boutique route carried a different set of burdens.

“As you get more senior, particularly in a large law firm, you find that you spend less and less of your time actually doing the work and more of your time running the team,” he says.

Those tasks include firm administration, lateral hiring and recruitment and performance reviews, which he says are “inevitable with that style of business”.

Launching independently would not necessarily have solved those pain points.

It has to some extent many of the advantages of a boutique, but you don’t have to run your own law firm.

“If what you want to do is to go away from management and bureaucracy and get back to law, it doesn’t really accomplish that,” he says.

Keystone, by contrast, offered structural simplicity.

“It has to some extent many of the advantages of a boutique, but you don’t have to run your own law firm,” he says.

“There are no management roles expected other than to manage your own practice.”

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Trainee First Year
Trainee Second Year
Newly Qualified (NQ)
Addleshaw Goddard£52,000£56,000£100,000
Akin£60,000£65,000£174,418
A&O Shearman£56,000£61,000£150,000
Ashurst£57,000£62,000£140,000
Baker McKenzie£56,000£61,000£145,000
Bird & Bird£48,500£53,500£102,000
Bristows£48,000£52,000£95,000
Bryan Cave Leighton Paisner£55,000£58,000£125,000
Burges Salmon£49,500£51,500£76,000
Charles Russell Speechlys£52,000£55,000£93,000
Cleary Gottlieb£62,500£67,500£164,500
Clifford Chance£56,000£61,000£150,000
Clyde & Co£48,500£51,000£85,000
CMS£50,000£55,000£120,000
Cooley£55,000£60,000£157,000
Davis Polk £65,000£70,000£180,000
Debevoise £55,000£60,000£173,000
Dechert£55,000£61,000£165,000
Dentons£52,000£56,000£104,000
DLA Piper£52,000£57,000£130,000
Eversheds Sutherland£50,000£55,000£110,000
Farrer & Co£47,000£49,000£88,000
Fieldfisher£48,500£52,000£100,000
Freshfields£56,000£61,000£150,000
Fried Frank£55,000£60,000£175,000
Gibson Dunn£60,000£65,000£180,000
Goodwin Procter£55,000£60,000£175,000
Gowling WLG£48,500£53,500£105,000
Herbert Smith Freehills Kramer£56,000£61,000£145,000
HFW£50,000£54,000£103,500
Hill Dickinson£43,000£45,000£80,000
Hogan Lovells£56,000£61,000£140,000
Irwin Mitchell£43,500£45,500£78,000
Jones Day£60,000£68,000£165,000
K&L Gates£50,000£55,000£115,000
Kennedys£43,000£46,000£85,000
King & Spalding£62,000£67,000£175,000
Kirkland & Ellis£60,000£65,000£174,418
Latham & Watkins£60,000£65,000£174,418
Linklaters£56,000£61,000£150,000
Macfarlanes£56,000£61,000£140,000
Mayer Brown£55,000£60,000£150,000
McDermott Will & Schulte£65,000£70,000£174,418
Milbank£65,000£70,000£174,418
Mills & Reeve£45,000£47,000£84,000
Mischon de Reya£50,000£55,000£100,000
Norton Rose Fulbright£56,000£61,000£135,000
Orrick£60,000£65,000£160,000
Osborne Clarke£55,500£57,500£97,000
Paul Hastings£60,000£68,000£173,000
Paul Weiss£60,000£65,000£180,000
Penningtons Manches Cooper£48,000£50,000£83,000
Pinsent Masons£52,000£57,000£105,000
Quinn Emanueln/an/a£180,000
Reed Smith£53,000£58,000£125,000
Ropes & Gray£60,000£65,000£165,000
RPC£48,000£52,000£95,000
Shoosmiths£45,000£47,000£105,000
Sidley Austin£60,000£65,000£175,000
Simmons & Simmons£54,000£59,000£120,000
Simpson Thachern/an/a£178,000
Skadden£58,000£63,000£177,000
Slaughter and May£56,000£61,000£150,000
Squire Patton Boggs£50,000£55,000£110,000
Stephenson Harwood£50,000£55,000£105,000
Sullivan & Cromwell£65,000£70,000£174,418
Taylor Wessing£52,000£57,000£115,000
TLT£44,000£47,500£85,000
Travers Smith£55,000£60,000£130,000
Trowers & Hamlins£47,000£51,000£85,000
Vinson & Elkins£60,000£65,000£173,077
Watson Farley & Williams£51,500£56,000£107,000
Weightmans£36,000£38,000£70,000
Weil £60,000£65,000£170,000
White & Case£62,000£67,000£175,000
Willkie Farr & Gallagher£60,000£65,000£170,000
Withers£47,000£52,000£95,000
Womble Bond Dickinson£43,000£45,000£83,000
Rank
Law Firm
Revenue
Profit per Equity
Partner (PEP)
1DLA Piper*£3,130,000,000£2,500,000
2A&O Shearman£2,900,000,000£2,000,000
3Clifford Chance£2,400,000,000£2,100,000
4Hogan Lovells£2,320,000,000£2,400,000
5Linklaters£2,320,000,000£2,200,000
6Freshfields£2,250,000,000Not disclosed
7CMS**£1,800,000,000Not disclosed
8Norton Rose Fulbright*£1,800,000,000Not disclosed
9HSF Kramer£1,360,000,000£1,400,000
10Ashurst£1,030,000,000£1,390,000
11Clyde & Co£854,000,000Not disclosed
12Eversheds Sutherland£769,000,000£1,400,000
13Pinsent Masons£680,000,000£790,000
14Slaughter and May***£650,000,000Not disclosed
15BCLP*£640,000,000£790,000
16Simmons & Simmons£615,000,000£1,120,000
17Bird & Bird**£580,000,000£720,000
18Addleshaw Goddard£550,000,000£1,000,000
19Taylor Wessing£526,000,000£1,100,000
20Osborne Clarke**£476,000,000£800,000
21DWF£466,000,000Not disclosed
22Womble Bond Dickinson£450,000,000Not disclosed
23Kennedys£428,000,000Not disclosed
24Fieldfisher£385,000,000£1,000,000
25Macfarlanes£371,000,000£3,100,000

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A different dynamic

One of the more unexpected elements of working at Keystone has been the level of collaboration.

“One of the things that I didn’t expect, but which has been a really pleasant surprise, is the attitude towards collaboration,” he says.

Within weeks of joining, he says at least 30 partners proactively reached out. In larger firms, he notes, new partners arrive and sometimes people barely notice.

There’s a huge number of partners who have left Big Law...that lifts spirits.

“There’s a huge number of partners who have left Big Law, who are now not burdened with some of the challenges of Big Law. That lifts spirits,” he says.

The firm makes an effort to gather people together, whether in London or elsewhere. For example, Keystone organised a drinks reception following a recent continuing education session, attended by around 100 lawyers.

Keystone’s incentive model, he suggests, also makes collaboration commercially straightforward. The firm operates a fixed 15% client origination fee.

“I know that if I bring in work and give it to somebody else, I’ll benefit from that.”

The alternatives

“I wish I’d done this 10 years ago,” he says.

This trend of senior disputes lawyers moving to boutiques or what he describes as “neo” law firms - newer alternative law firm models - has been playing out for years.

UK-founded firms such as Setfords and Taylor Rose, as well as US FisherBroyles are also prominent players in this space. One of the most notable moves came in 2014, when a group of senior arbitration partners left Freshfields to found specialist boutique Three Crowns.

The rise of platform firms also runs parallel to infrastructure consultancies such as Kindleworth and Prosperant, which assist partners in spinning out of large firms to launch independent boutiques.

For more on the trend of senior lawyers launching their own firms, listen to our podcast episode with Kindleworth partners James Hacking and Mike Estill.

FirmLondon office sinceKnown for in London
Akin 1997Restructuring, funds
Baker McKenzie1961Finance, capital markets, TMT
Davis Polk1972Leveraged finance, corporate/M&A
Gibson Dunn1979Private equity, arbitration, energy, resources and infrastructure
Goodwin2008Private equity, funds, life sciences
Kirkland & Ellis1994Private equity, funds, restructuring
Latham & Watkins1990Finance, private equity, capital markets
McDermott Will & Schulte1998Finance, funds, healthcare
Milbank1979Finance, capital markets, energy, resources and infrastructure
Paul Hastings1997Leveraged finance, structured finance, infrastructure
Paul Weiss2001Private equity, leveraged finance
Quinn Emanuel2008Litigation
Sidley Austin1974Leveraged finance, capital markets, corporate/M&A
Simpson Thacher1978Leveraged finance, private equity, funds
Skadden1988Finance, corporate/M&A, arbitration
Sullivan & Cromwell1972Corporate/M&A, restructuring, capital markets
Weil1996Restructuring, private equity, leverage finance
White & Case1971Capital markets, arbitration, energy, resources and infrastructure
Law firmTypeFirst-year salary
White & CaseUS firm£32,000
Stephenson HarwoodInternational£30,000
A&O ShearmanMagic Circle£28,000
Charles Russell SpeechlysInternational£28,000
FreshfieldsMagic Circle£28,000
Herbert Smith FreehillsSilver Circle£28,000
Hogan LovellsInternational£28,000
LinklatersMagic Circle£28,000
Mishcon de ReyaInternational£28,000
Norton Rose FulbrightInternational£28,000
Law Firm
Trainee First Year
Trainee Second Year
Newly Qualified (NQ)
A&O Shearman£56,000£61,000£150,000
Clifford Chance£56,000£61,000£150,000
Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer£56,000£61,000£150,000
Linklaters£56,000£61,000£150,000
Slaughter and May£56,000£61,000£150,000
Law Firm
Trainee First Year
Trainee Second Year
Newly Qualified (NQ)
A&O Shearman£56,000£61,000£150,000
Clifford Chance£56,000£61,000£150,000
Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer£56,000£61,000£150,000
Linklaters£56,000£61,000£150,000
Slaughter and May£56,000£61,000£150,000
Law Firm
Trainee First Year
Trainee Second Year
Newly Qualified (NQ)
Ashurst£57,000£62,000£140,000
Bryan Cave Leighton Paisner£55,000£58,000£125,000
Herbert Smith Freehills£56,000£61,000£145,000
Macfarlanes£56,000£61,000£140,000
Travers Smith£55,000£60,000£130,000
FirmMerger yearKnown for in London
BCLP2018Real estate, corporate/M&A, litigation
DLA Piper2005Corporate/M&A, real estate, energy, resources and infrastructure
Eversheds Sutherland2017Corporate/M&A, finance
Hogan Lovells2011Litigation, regulation, finance
Mayer Brown2002Finance, capital markets, real estate
Norton Rose Fulbright2013Energy, resources and infrastructure, insurance, finance
Reed Smith2007Shipping, finance, TMT
Squire Patton Boggs2011Corporate/M&A, pensions, TMT
Law Firm
Trainee First Year
Trainee Second Year
Newly Qualified (NQ)
Ashurst£57,000£62,000£140,000
Bryan Cave Leighton Paisner£55,000£58,000£125,000
Herbert Smith Freehills Kramer£56,000£61,000£145,000
Macfarlanes£56,000£61,000£140,000
Travers Smith£55,000£60,000£130,000
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Olivia Rhye
11 Jan 2022
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